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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 16, 2009 4:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

I agree. I thought the RT1-3, RT1-4 and RT2-2 as well as Rockin' which was essentially the same kind of release were all great. Better sound in many cases and for even RT2-2 which has a complete show, I found the extra material at the end of the first two discs and the bonus disc were where the action is. I also don't need release of whole shows if there are significant flaws in the tape. Parts of RT1-4 had to be patched with auds and that was a bit disappointing. Also the mix of complete vs. RT-type releases has been fair. Basically 2:1, RT-type:complete shows and that does not count the latter release of two of the complete shows from RT1-1 and that RT2-2 does have a complete show.

I also like the subtle change in the format of Road Trips. The first two were spliced from several shows and I think in RT1-2 there was even a false transition (kind of like LiveDead, no?). Since RT1-3 the releases are essentially one disc from one show and a second disc from the second show with bonus material from both shows as well as a few others. It works fine for me, I have most of the shows from the releases and can go back and listen to complete shows if I choose.

Finally I thought this was a good way to grow the audience, however I am not sure if they are doing that. The RT releases have been for the most part exclusive to dead.net and available in CD only. Haven't figured that out yet. Is that how you win over the kids?

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Poster: Yankee9 Date: Jun 16, 2009 5:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

yeah that's a great point....by making these exculsive to dead.net, nobody really knows about them. Bizarre

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Poster: waynecs Date: Jun 17, 2009 6:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

I've seen RTs in record stores,i don't think they are exclusive to dead.net.

As to the original post - When I'm listening to these recordings am I worrying about the fact that they aren't complete shows?F**K NO!!!I'm too busy dancing.I'll leave the concern to those far more anal than I.

This post was modified by waynecs on 2009-06-18 01:03:53

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 16, 2009 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

I thought some were exclusive, i am sure that the bonus discs are since you have to pre-order to get those and the third disc makes the price reasonable imo.

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Jun 16, 2009 11:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

I haven't seen any of the RT series in shops over here....and with the shipping being so expensive, they are a luxury for me.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 17, 2009 5:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

I was thinking the CD only releases were not good for kids, I hadn't even considered how restrictive they were for global sales.

I seem to recall you did purchase RT2-2 and it took like a month to arrive. If you would like RT1-3 and RT2-3 (once I receive it) let me know. I believe those would be the other two from era you listen to. Only issue is I am in the process of moving so it might not be something I can get to immediately.

Damn, I hope William doesn't think I am moving in on his girl. I might end up with an arrow in my back.....



This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2009-06-17 12:58:58

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Jun 17, 2009 6:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

That's very kind of you, but I have those too....and yes, they took a long time to arrive.

Thanks again.

xx

EDIT: and obviously I don't yet have RT2-3 but I have the shows involved...if that makes sense.

This post was modified by Miss Divine on 2009-06-17 13:28:46

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 17, 2009 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

Well if you interested in RT2-3 let me know.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 17, 2009 6:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

Well, seeing as how you were ever so gently rebuffed (hmmm...gotta find a better word there), I can save my bolt this time around. But, we PMs have to be very careful with respective to our SOs...another scandal is the last thing this Administration needs (is that what we have around here? Not sure this metaphor is working).

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 17, 2009 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

First off, a gentle rebuffing from a woman is practically a win in my book. I got the "xx" which is far more rewarding than the usual "NO GO AWAY YOU GIVE ME THE CREEPS!!!!" response.

PMs are a shaky lot so any response should be anticipated. As a precautionary measure I have taken to walking around with an apple on my head. I think of it as a lightning rod. You won't be able to help yourself and will not aim at my person. Show off.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 17, 2009 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

Yeah, shoulda changed that "rebuff" part...damn. And, don't think I didn't notice the little "xx" thingamagig...I have gotten three in a row though, and I think they were all caps, so don't go picking out any flowers or anything...

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Poster: wineland Date: Jun 16, 2009 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

Are the RTs available on iTunes? If so then Rhino & GD are casting a wider net to catch that younger audience.

I'm still a fan of the complete show. However, the sonic clarity wins me over when I listen to the RTs. I have the complete shows so I can always dig those out of my vaults if I even need to listen to the whole shebang.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 16, 2009 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

The only Rhino releases i see on the itunes music store are To Terrapin and Rockin' the Cradle. No Road trips. They don't even offer them for download on their own site. Just seems short sited to me.

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Poster: wineland Date: Jun 16, 2009 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Road Trips Works

Sam Goody and Best Buy are ok, but the trend has been to digital formats for distribution. Short sighted? Seems like they are going blind.

Regardless, I am excited to hear the June 74 shows they released. The online listening party tracks sounded very nice.
http://www.dead.net/listeningparty-rtv2-n3?cmpid=RTV2N3